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Great topic. The Institute for Local Government created Local Government Basics for Students, which may provide a backdrop in a civic/civic-tech curriculum. In terms of decentralized calendar management, Google Apps is making big ins in education by providing free Google Apps. At a local public charter school, the ability to share and manage calendars online made decentralized management possible. Plus, the calendars have feeds available: xml, ical. And in the spirit of accessible data, I just started working on a calendaring system at a local school. I know a few eager students who'd like their calendar notifications via their iPhone/Droid, rather than in an email (in the campus email system, on a spreadsheet, each week). Kevin - the DataSF project sounds interesting. Any update? Jon - do you think it might work as an After School Program? I ask from a program standpoint. Supplemental education is funded at a steady rate. Also, there was a large "Character Education" grant that wa On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:06 PM, kevin curry <kmcurry@gmail.com> wrote: Ok, tracking you now. And educational endeavor. This is interesting. I just got off a call w/ someone in SF who is kicking around an idea to organize class/school-age projects using data from DataSF.org. On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jon Udell <jonu@microsoft.com> wrote: > The school's own calendar would be a can of worms for the reasons you note. > So instead I'd like to engage a teacher and a group of students in an > exploration of the web presence of the community at large, w/respect to its > various sources of public event info. The students would learn: > > - The difference between HTML/PDF pages and calendar feeds > > - How to create calendar feeds > > - How to merge calendar feeds > > The process would teach key underlying principles of 21st-century literacy, > including structured data, indirection, syndication. The outcome would be a > prototype of a decentralized, network-based community calendar that works > according to those principles. > > Admittedly you'd need an enlightened teacher to pull this off. If anybody > knows one who'd be willing to try I'd love to connect. > > Jon > > PPS: re: http://manorisd.intand.com/ Yep, that vendor is one of the few > that exports iCal. Our own school doesn't use them but a neighboring school > does. > > -----Original Message----- > From: kevin curry [mailto:kmcurry@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:36 AM > To: citycamp@forums.e-democracy.org > Subject: Re: [CityCamp Exchange] teaching civic data-gathering in schools > > Jon, > > Are you trying to establish a new grassroots practice at the teacher level? > In my experience the teachers are not the source of this data either. > Schools here in Virginia Beach have an administrative person compile and > maintain the school's calendar. How teachers' events end up on that > calendar is by hook or by crook. A teacher often emails the admin or stops > by his/her office with the info. The school admin is the PoC between a > school and the school system. The school principal is a key role player > because they control the master calendar for the school. That calendar > includes things like PTA events, which are usually reported to the principal > during PTA meetings. Not sure if you are trying to find teachers who do or > will create, maintain and publish their personal calendars. Otherwise, you > might want to reach out to principals. > > By the way, here's City of Manor's school calendar: > http://manorisd.intand.com/ > > The RSS feed follows the anti-pattern, but there are some interesting > subscription options here: > > > http://manorisd.intand.com/index.php?type=export&action=ical&export_type=now_to_infinity&limit=none&date_start=2010-11-05 > > Manor Independent School District Superintendent Andrew Kim is forward > leaning in the use of information technology for his school system. > > Best, > Kevin > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jon Udell <jonu@microsoft.com> wrote: > > > I'm looking for a few teachers to work with me on leading some > > students through this exercise: > > > > ==== > > > > Dear Mr. Jones, > > > > We're students at the Jefferson Middle School, and we're working on a > > class project to improve the amount and quality of online event > > information for our community. We noticed that the following > > information is available on your website: [EXAMPLES]. > > > > However, these events aren't published in a form that enables them to > > show up automatically elsewhere -- for example, on the Herald's site, > > or the Chamber of Commerce site, or on people's personal calendars. To > > show how that can work, we have reformulated your information as a > > data feed. You can see it merged together with other data feeds here: > [EXAMPLE]. > > > > This is just a demonstration. We're not the appropriate source for > > your data, you are. As part of our class project, we're reaching out > > to organizations like yours to show them how they can publish their > > own event information in two ways: as text for people to read, and > > also as data for computers to process and for networks to syndicate. > > > > We know that sounds complicated, but it's really just a way of > > applying the ordinary calendar software that you probably already have > > and use. May we contact the person in your organization who's > > responsible for the events page on your website, and make a > > presentation about how you could be publishing event information in a > more useful way? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Kayla Smith, Tim Miller, Samantha Williams Jefferson Middle School > > Civic Data Project > > > > ==== > > > > If you know a teacher who'd be willing and able to try this, please > > invite them to contact me. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jon > > > > (http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/10/a-lesson-in-civics-public-data.html) > > > > > > > > > > Jon Udell > > > > About Jon Udell: > > http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/2T6UMcmmQdKqMo5SVOdjm6 > > > > View full topic, share on Facebook, Twitter, etc: > > http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/topic/5i6H1e3APZvj0QmYb5v60o > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To post, e-mail: > > citycamp@forums.e-democracy.org or "Reply-to-All" to post publicly. > > To leave or for daily digest, type "unsubscribe" OR "digest on" in > > subject instead. > > > > Forum home: http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/citycamp > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > Need help? http://e-democracy.org/support Hosting thanks: > > http://OnlineGroups.Net > > Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/edemocracyorg > > > > > > -- > Kevin Curry > Virginia Beach, VA > http://twitter.com/kmcurry > > Kevin Curry > Virginia Beach > About Kevin Curry: http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/1QopOcbYAJLsQNo3nWFQWQ > > View full topic, share on Facebook, Twitter, etc: > http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/topic/2Cm3ZXBMrlwEAKZfB5r1li > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > To post, e-mail: citycamp@forums.e-democracy.org or "Reply-to-All" to > post publicly. > To leave or for daily digest, type "unsubscribe" OR "digest on" in subject > instead. > > Forum home: http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/citycamp > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Need help? http://e-democracy.org/support Hosting thanks: > http://OnlineGroups.Net > Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/edemocracyorg > > > Jon Udell > > About Jon Udell: http://forums.e-democracy.org/p/2T6UMcmmQdKqMo5SVOdjm6 > > View full topic, share on Facebook, Twitter, etc: > http://forums.e-democracy.org/r/topic/1X70aOKukqFEclgDALlYkS > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > To post, e-mail: citycamp@forums.e-democracy.org or "Reply-to-All" to > post publicly. > To leave or for daily digest, type "unsubscribe" OR "digest on" in subject > instead. > > Forum home: http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/citycamp > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Need help? http://e-democracy.org/support Hosting thanks: > http://OnlineGroups.Net > Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/edemocracyorg >
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